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Labels: Chickens, eggs, Heritage Chickens, Jennifer Burcke, Winter
by Jennifer Burcke
Well, I could if I didn't mind turning off the fixture that supplies our hens with supplemental lighting. I am acutely aware of the importance of the light provided by this single bulb. In my last post, I shared with you the incredible difference that a compact fluorescent light bulb has made in the laying ability of our hens this winter.
I could trade the all-important light for a heated waterer if I
didn't mind a return to days on end of finding empty nest boxes every morning. That is a choice I simply cannot make. If I can only supply power to
one electrical device in our coop, then the light wins every day of the
week.
Since moving to our farm six years ago, we have gone to great lengths to bring our circa 1840 barn into
the current century. We've made many improvements, but it is still, at its heart, a 170 year old
member of our farming family. It has its faults. We love it in
spite of every one of them.
Then Mother Nature dared me to rethink those limits. On a Sunday morning, I went out to the coop bright and early with warm oatmeal and water for our hens. They greeted me eagerly and began their morning meal. Out of the corner of my eye, I spotted two fresh eggs resting in a single nest box. I took a deep breath, thanked the girls for their hard work on such a cold morning, and went to retrieve the eggs for my family's breakfast.
It was a nice moment. Suddenly, all of my hard, bitterly cold work was worth it. Yes, it was cold and I would have rather been inside drinking my first hot cup of coffee of the morning. But here I was, ready to triumph over the cold January morning. I was going to collect two beautifully fresh eggs and serve them to my family for breakfast.
I reached over and gingerly picked up the first egg. Even with my fleece gloves on, I noticed that it felt different. Then I picked up the second egg and noticed the unthinkable. It had frozen solid to the point of breaking its shell. Upon examining the first egg, I found that it had suffered the same damage.
I made my snowy retreat to the farmhouse feeling totally dejected. I was freezing, my fingers were numb, and I had two eggs that had fallen prey to the cold temperatures in spite of my best efforts. Did I mention that I was dealing with all of this before having my first cup of coffee? I don't deal with anything very well before I have a little caffeine. This situation was definitely too much to bear without the assistance of a cup of home roasted coffee.
These were the first cracked eggs I had seen in months. True, I
had seen my share of cracked eggs from the coop since we
became chicken keepers. All through the spring, we had struggled with thin
eggshells before we discovered how to boost our flock's calcium intake.
I had foolishly hoped that our days of cracked eggshells were behind us
now that we had found a way to incorporate more calcium into our flock's diet.
I wasn't sure what to do with these eggs. The shells of both eggs were cracked from end to end. I could see the frozen membrane was still intact and doing its very best to protect the underlying egg. I knew that I had to free the eggs from their shells while they were still frozen. I was willing to bet that the membrane would be compromised after being frozen and might rupture during the thawing process exposing the egg to harmful bacteria. I worried that the thawed egg would then emerge from the cracked shell leaving me with two eggs that I would be unable to salvage.
Drastic times call for equally drastic measures. I started to remove the shell from the first egg and found that it was a process akin to peeling a hard boiled egg after it has been refrigerated. The shell broke into small pieces and fell away from the membrane encased egg. The second egg followed suit and in a matter of minutes I had two perfectly frozen eggs.
It had taken nearly twelve hours for me to prepare these two eggs for use in our farmhouse kitchen. True, it wasn't how I had intended to use them, but at the end of the day, they had served their original purpose. They had helped to nourish my family while reminding me that the difficult work of farming through the winter was a small price to pay for the reward it brings.
I will admit to allowing myself a moment later that evening to enjoy that sense of pride I had held upon first spotting those two eggs in the coop earlier in the day. Through bone chilling temperatures and winter's harsh conditions, I had tended to our flock and they had rewarded me with farm fresh food for my family. Deep down, I knew that this was the reason that my great-grandfather and I had both persevered in our quest to farm in New England's harsh winter environment. The reward so far outweighed the toil involved, that the location became irrelevant.
Then, rather abruptly, the moment of reflection was over. It had been three hours since I last delivered fresh water to the coop and barn and it was time for my last icy trip of the day. Hello, my name is the ice queen and there is still plenty of work to be done before the day is through.
This spring, we'll be making a few additions to our flock and sharing the experience with you. I will be chronicling the life of our new chickens from day old chicks into laying hens through a recurring series of posts about life in the coop at 1840 Farm. Stay tuned!




42 Comments:
Since you are using fluorescent lighting, you could probably put in one of those outlet adapters to let you also use a water heater thing.
I think I read somewhere that warm water freezes faster than cold.
But I'm glad you were able to salvage the eggs. That's good information to know.
Have you noticed any hen fighting? I read somewhere that if you use light in the winter, it should be red so they don't fight. Still trying to get the hang of all this chicken stuff before we have ours.
Stay warm!
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LindaG, At
January 24, 2012 7:10 AM
I have also read that constant lighting can cause stress which then results in birds that are more likely to fight with each other. From what I have read, it stems from the inability to sleep with a bright light on. That is why we have our light on a timer. Our light turns off around 8:00pm in order to give our hens plenty of rest in the dark of night so as not to disrupt their natural sleep pattern.
Last year when we were using a heat lamp (due to the fact that our chickens were young chicks) we did use a red lamp. It is my understanding that they cannot see the red spectrum light. The red light provided heat but no illumination as far as they were concerned so they slept without any problems. This year, we need for them to recognize the light in order to facilitate egg production, so we are using a white light.
Y
ou'll get the hang of chicken keeping. Chickens will teach you something new every day. You're in the right place-there's plenty to learn about here at Community Chickens!
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Jennifer, At
January 24, 2012 7:50 AM
Thanks for the clarification, Jennifer. Much appreciated!
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LindaG, At
January 24, 2012 8:04 AM
We have to run a heavy duty extension cord from our barn to the chicken coop. We have a power strip in there so that we can plug in lights, heat lamp and a water heater. We had no frozen eggs last year, the coldest winter in years for our area, and the chicken laid heavy all the way through. We also skipped the frost bit combs on the rooster and larger hens. We have about 35 hens and 5 roosters (separated)and they did great. We also have a thermal couple for the heat lamp so that it comes on when the temp gets near 32 degrees. We have spoiled hens.
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Rachael, At
January 24, 2012 9:40 AM
You might not need the light now that December is over and the days are increasingly getting longer.
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"S" and family, At
January 24, 2012 9:43 AM
A couple of things.
1)If you change the florescent light to an old fashioned bulb that heats or even one of those dome work lights, it will not only provide light but heat. You can place that over or near your water/nest box and help keep it thawed. I realize already your concerns on this.
2) Flourescent bulbs take little electric. Im sure it would be very safe to add an adapter that would allow for a 2nd item. You could either use a small fish tank heater (very little electric), a heating pad under the water bucket or nest box or your regular water heaters.
3)If you go to a place that sells things for fast food companies, you can get the microwave pouches that stay hot a long time (for transporting food hot) pretty cheap. Get a bunch of those and keep some at the house. each time you go down take two fresh ones. Put one in the water bown and one in the hens nest. They stay warm for hours. Save your bread bags and slip them in a clean bag before you microwave so as not to have a dirty pouch in your microwave. Also, I fill all of my dishes with HOT water in winter. The birds love it and it takes longer to refreeze. It also serves to warm their core when they drink it & throws some heat into the coup.
4) There are some very nice solar powered things you can get cheap/on sale at places like harbor freight...if not one in your area...check on line. Some have battery capacity so they will run at night. I got a little heater on special once for $5. We built a little box with a screen front and back around it and too keep water and poop off. It cycles on and off...helps with the water and the eggs. Of course yourse still talking 2nd socket.
5) Heres the best thing that worked for me. ONly available at christmas...though I dont know why they dont carry them all the time. I use mine for everything. Loews carries a Stake with multiple outlets AND a timer on it. You can set 3 of the outlets to work one time and the other 3 to work at the same or different times.
It only cost about $14 dollars. I heard they actually have this years where all 6 items can have their own program!!! This is great. Use one socket and program each item at a different hour. Your light can come on from 1-2. Your waterheater from 2-3 and your heating pad for the eggs from 4-5. You can even do it down to minutes 2-2:15. This way you could have all items running on one outlet...just not at the same time. Your light to contrary believe does NOT have to be consistent. I do mine 3 hours longer in early morning and 3 hours longer at the end of the day. Then my heaters can kick on before the light and after. While my heater is on a thermosstat Its also on the timer so it doesnt even start to cycle on until after 11pm and stops at 5. I dont want the hens to go froma real warm coup outside in the cold. I also dont keep it super warm. I dont want to create whimpy birds. Just enough to stop freezing.
Sorry I didn't mean to take over the board but I too have a simple coup and had a parent with cancer so I COULDNT go down there 4 times a day. I had to get creative ...FAST. Good luck to you and God Bless. I hope something here helps you.
Can you tell I too have a simple non-electric coup. Everything is run off of a medium guage ....very long extension chord with a fuse protector attached. If something does short out...it blows the fuse before a fire.
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Karen, At
January 24, 2012 9:55 AM
This year I stopped using lights in the coop entirely, thinking it would give my hens a break. I still got a couple eggs a day at the lowest production point, plenty for us. Within days of passing the winter solstice, egg production picked up again. I am getting about a dozen a day now, in January, from my 50 hens - pretty soon it will be egg overload. I am in Minnesota, so frozen water and frozen eggs are a challenge. The heated poultry waterers and water heaters did not seem to last very long and are expensive. I resorted to using a heated 2.5 gallon bucket. It is much faster to fill and clean than the chicken waterers. I wouldn't use it for young chicks, however, or they could fall in. I gather eggs twice a day and usually avoid frozen eggs, except for my few rogue barn hens that hide them in the hay bales.
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Susan, At
January 24, 2012 10:14 AM
I agree with Karen and Susan.We have the electrical problem....So,heated water comes before light.December ..we were lucky to get 4 eggs a dayBut the days are geting longer,so we get 7 to 12 a day.We don't keep heat in the 4 coops..can not afford it...Also they are partilly wrapped and protected from the north and west wind.Betty fom NC
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Betty, At
January 24, 2012 10:50 AM
I have a lite bulb on 16 hours per day. It is on a timer. I live in Minnesota. I use a heated dog dish and it works beautifully. I had bad luck with the heated water things made for chickens. They just didn't work. My chickens (I have an assortment of 16 hens) are laying 8 eggs per day. chickens are all about light, not heat. They have nice warm down jackets. They have a roomy coop with lots of outdoor light and straw. They are out of the wind and snow. If it get below 0 I will close them in and put in a heat lamp for a night or two. I am glad to get the info about the frozen eggs. Sometimes I don't get out there in time and they are frozen and I have been tossing them out.
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ruthno, At
January 24, 2012 11:18 AM
There is an easy fix here. You can buy 2 trickle charge solar panels and 2 heavy duty semi truck batteries and a converter to plug in all the lights and heat you will need for your hen house. A red heat lamp aimed at the nesting boxes should do fine so you won't have frozen eggs. Leave batteries outside and covered with insulated box. Make sure your solar panels are where you can reach them to brush snow away. Used or refurbished batteries should run around $50-$100 and the panels are around $20-$40 depending where you are. Be aware of the watts you desire.
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Windy, At
January 24, 2012 11:31 AM
Any electricity for my coop would have to be run from the house with a heavy duty electical cord. I thought about using a base water heater, but the instructions said that it shouldn't be used with an extension cord. I decided not to try it but wondered if there are any heaters that could safely be used with extension cords? The coop is not large and there really isn't enough room for a heated bucket. The base heater seemed to be the best option. Any suggestions?
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Mary, At
January 24, 2012 11:36 AM
you are working way too hard. I only water and feed and collect eggs every other day! I get almost an egg a day from every hen like this: I pushed their coop under a 10 x 20 carport that is enclosed on all sides with the same vinyl tarp that they have on the roof. I enter it through a zipper. It has a steep pitch so the snow falls off of it. I think it is a King Canopy Hercules carport. We live in North Idaho so we usually get tons of snow. I put hay on the bottom of the floor and put hay bales around the perimeter to make it more secure and for insulation. Next, I found a broken steel tripod water sprinkler in my garage and I put a zip tie around the top of it so that I could hang three avian water pitchers (I have 15 hens). you can see these water pitchers at http://www.avianaquamiser.com/. They are the kind the chickens peck at to get water to drip out. No more messy water messes in the coop. I have had them a year and they work great. I hung my light bulb and orange premier heatlamp right over the water pitchers so they never freeze and the hens get light and heat at the same time. Every other day I take in a 5 gallon bucket of feed and a gallon of hot water and refill the containers of water and feed. then i collect the eggs. I also spend 5 minutes using a cat litter scoop to get any chicken poop out of the pine shavings in the coop (not the floor of the carport) so that the eggs stay clean and i dump that into a huge garbage can so that i can use the chicken manure in the garden in the spring. I have never had frozen eggs. It is really nice and cozy under the carport. It is so nice in this carport coop that I have caught the cats lounging in there with the chickens. I should get a picture of that. They like to sit on top of the coop and look in the little windows to watch the chickens.
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mrsmimiwhite, At
January 24, 2012 11:37 AM
I have 2 heat lamps and a 40 W bulb under a clay plant pot which the waterer sits on top. I have put a switch on the cord to turn it on and off as necessary. This is all plugged into an extention cord. I also use a solar light..even in the winter the light stays dim, just in case the power goes out. I also use something called the Cube. It is like a small power bar that has a thermostat built right into it. The extention cord is plugged onto this, on the outside, just before it goes into the hen house. When the outside temp in 7degrees C. it shuts the power off, when the temp goes below 2, the power comes back on. I live in Canada so this has worked excellent for us... Hope this helps..Krystal
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krystal, At
January 24, 2012 11:38 AM
Here in upstate NY we are warm for this week, coming off of about 2 weeks of frigid weather. We have no electric in our coop, so no heated waterers or extra light. The 9 girls have been laying 3 to 4 eggs a day, but sometimes only 1 or 2. There are 5 big windows, and the open back door on the days when it isn't too horribly cold, so maybe they are getting enough light to keep them laying.
As for the water, I have been playing the Ice Queen just like you. I wish there was someone out there who would invent some sort of insulated water dish, black perhaps, so that it could be set outside on sunny days to absorb the sunlight. The best answer I have seen thus far is to warm up a large stone on the woodstove, and set it under a ceramic or metal water bowl, but frankly it is just as much trouble to be heating up a stone and carrying it back and forth as it is to just knock out the ice and start fresh every few hours.
Another solution was to put the water bowl in a bucket of dirt (or something else) as insulation. I must say I have had some success with that, although they do tend to get dirt in the water. For now I have the bottom half of a lunch-size Coleman cooler stuck in an old refrigerator drawer full of wood shavings. I like to think that it is saving me some trips to the coop, but I may just be dreaming on that one...
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KatyDaly, At
January 24, 2012 11:47 AM
I replaced my regular light with a heat lamp. Get heat and light at the same time. I hung it over the waterer to keep the water from freezing, and it provides enough light to keep the chickens laying.
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howigetby, At
January 24, 2012 11:55 AM
Our 2 heat lamps are on the bottom level of our coop, not on top where the hens roost because they did not like the red light on them when they are roosting to sleep. The 2 heat lamps are pointed at our 3 gallon waterer and hang about 2 feet above the waterer to keep the water from ever freezing. My hens love it because they always know where to find warm water. Every night when they enter the coop for bed, they all stand under the heat lamps for a few minutes while they get a few sips of water and nibbles of food, then after warming themselves under the heat lamp, they climb up to to their roost and sleep happily. Between the heat, the sunlight, and winter supplement my girls continue laying all winter long.
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Gracie, At
January 24, 2012 12:27 PM
I have seven hens and a rooster in my fairly small but insulated coop. I bought a heated dog dish that holds more than a gallon of water. It's thermostatically controlled so it only comes on when needed and uses almost no electricity. Before we had electrical service installed in our coop we ran a timer light and the water dish off an extension cord that plugged in at our garage, 150' away. No problem. We clean and refill the dish once per day.
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BDM, At
January 24, 2012 12:32 PM
I personally don't put supplemental lighting on my hens, mostly because I believe natural light is better. But I do have a solution for the frozen water, read about this from a Minnesota farmer. Take a piece of wood big enough to hold a large clay pot. in this board place a light receptacle, one of those ceramic type. place a 40 watt incandescent light in this, place the clay pot upside down over this, place a clay saucer upside down over this. put the water on top of that plug it in the 40 watt incandescent light bulb is enough to keep the water from freezing even to around -11 degrees f. Have used this for two years now and my husband who does the chicken choirs is thrilled.
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Darlene, At
January 24, 2012 1:19 PM
You probably could use solar energy by enclosing the hose in a clear plastic pipe. The plastic pipe acts as a greenhouse, capturing the solar heat.
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rich3800, At
January 24, 2012 3:12 PM
Thank you to everyone for the fantastic ideas. Keep them coming-I'd be glad to give up my Ice Queen title!
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Jennifer, At
January 24, 2012 3:17 PM
No advice. None.at.all. But, I enjoyed your story! :o)
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Cara, At
January 24, 2012 3:38 PM
We too live in an old farm house in Iowa in the cold. My husband ran some more wire after installing a new circuit breaker box adding more sockets. So in my chicken coop I have 2 heaters for the water as well as heated bucket for the goats and a bowl for the cats. We also have some heat lamps for the really cold nights and florescent lights on timers for the chickens. So far no frozen eggs and am getting at least a couple dozen eggs a day. I had my husband run a hose from the hot water heater to the top of the stairs so I am able to fill my buckets easier. I save the kitty litter buckets as they have a lid that snaps closed. I use one of the inexpensive flat sleds to haul my water buckets out to the animals. The goats especially love the hot water even with their heated buckets. I have developed all this over the last 4 years of going from city girl to livestock owner. Of course it is a toss up as to who owns who,lol I also put tarps up around their area and over the goats stall to help contain heat. So far all is well.
Best of luck to you. The hens run loose during the day and I concocted panels using hog wire that I covered with plastic and then chicken wire over that which are installed at the bottom of our doors. This animal shed has the doors that swing down from the top but only cover half the space. In the winter we attach the panels which allow natural light and also a bit of solar heat in. On some of the real cold days you will see the goats and chickens laying by the panels enjoying the warm.
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BClark, At
January 24, 2012 4:35 PM
I had problems with water freezing too. I took an old 1 gallon paint can and mounted a ceramic light fixture in bottom with silicone and use a 40 watt bulb, replace the lid and secure. I ran the cord out the side of it and siliconed around it and buried it in ground to ground level. i use a 3 gallon metal waterer which i sit on top of the buried can...Not a single problem with frozen water and it gets to -20 here and it only uses 1 kilowatt of electric a day ( about 7 cents a day). Hope this helps.
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doug, At
January 24, 2012 4:57 PM
We use a timer and an outdoor Christmas light outlet. The outlet has three receptacles on it. We use one for our light and one for our heated waterer. The timer comes on an 3:30 am until 6 am and 5:30 pm until 8 pm. This works great with our birds because by the time that they come out of the coop, the water has thawed.
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farmerbrown, At
January 24, 2012 5:54 PM
I also have very limited electric out in my coup. I have my light on a timer also but have it coming on at 3 am and am using a regular light bulb because it does give off some heat when the temp is usually at it's coldest. Now the other thing I do to help prevent my water from freezing is, now don't laugh, bubble wrap. My husband was making fun of me until her realized it was working. I use a small plastic bucket that I have wrapped with about 2 inches of bubble wrap. In the morning before work I fill the bucket with really warm water, before I go to bed I fill it with really reall HOT water. Now there might be a thin layer of ice on it but the girls keep a hole pecked in it. If the temp dips down into the single digets I do need to make an extra trip or two out just to add more hot water to the top. Good luck.
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carol, At
January 24, 2012 7:24 PM
Hi Jennifer~ I live in Georgia now but raised chickens in New Hampshire for a lot of years. My brother once helped me salvage wood from some huge old barn doors and we used it to build a chicken coop. I also salvaged some old windows at the dump- excuse me- transfer station. Actually, I salvaged quite a few windows, and we were a little short on wood, so we made a solid wall on the north side and lots of windows on the south side. The door faced east and there was a big window on that wall and another window on the west wall. A little crazy to have so many windows in a place that often has night time temperatures way below 0, but I thought the natural light would be good for them, and I had the windows, so... I never had any electricity out to my coop, just lots of natural light during the short New Hampshire winter days. I used old clorox bottles for water in the winter, just cut a square out and left about 2 inches at the bottom to hold water. I hung the bottle with a string from a nail on the wall... you get the idea this was a very low budget system?! Every morning I brought fresh water to replace the frozen jug. I would generally go out mid afternoon to collect eggs, check feed, and replace the water so they could get a good drink before bedtime. Healthiest bunch of hens I ever had~ they didn't lay as many eggs over the winter with the short days, but each hen would lay a few eggs each week, and I think the abundant natural light was the best thing for them.
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Tree by the Stream, At
January 24, 2012 8:31 PM
Make a heated waterer. Use a small, thick cardboard or plywood box (top side open), lay a piece of sheet metal on the top, put a light fixture with bulb (I use a fluorescent) inside the box, put waterer on the metal. The bulb will heat the metal sufficiently to keep the water from freezing and it uses very little electricity when compared to a commercially available heated waterer.
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Rattlerjake, At
January 24, 2012 8:46 PM
our coop has a couple of windows made of chicken wire that i cover with plastic in the winter and i scored a screen door on freecycle that i replace with plastic in the winter. (plenty of air flow in the summer!)
we have one extension cord run out to our coop. there is a power strip with 2 timers on it, one is connected to a CFL bulb that goes on at 4am and off at 8am and the other is connected to a water warmer that is on from 8:30am till 3:30am. with only one on at a time there's enough juice to handle it just fine. by the time the water starts getting close to freezing the heater kicks back on. with the extra hours of light supplementing we get eggs all winter (except molting)
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Scott Stark, At
January 24, 2012 9:06 PM
I am in CO. My hens are doing fine with a heated waterer and deep bedding. I just added another bale of shavings last week and it's about 10" deep now. I don't use any supplemental light and agree with those who say that hens need some total darkness during the night in order to rest properly. This is their first winter and I get 3 or 4 eggs a day from 6 hens.
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califusedtobe, At
January 24, 2012 9:42 PM
I can see that I will be very busy trying out all of these great ideas. Thanks so much for sharing. Keep the suggestions and stories coming - I love reading them all!
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Jennifer, At
January 24, 2012 10:15 PM
I made a water heater for my four hens last year. Check it out.
http://practical-parsimony.blogspot.com/2010/12/water-heater-for-hens-water-how-to-make.html
Nothing had to be purchased. My hens live in a Rubbermaid box in a 10x10 dog pen, so they have no walls to protect the water heater from cold.
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Linda, At
January 24, 2012 10:49 PM
Here's another great comment from a reader:
There are plenty of outdoor quality extension cords that are heavy
enough to carry the necessary amperage to operate a typical warm water
supply or power a pipe wrap heater wound around the water tank above the watering trough. The power requirements are very little when used in a small area. Build an insulated sleeve around the water feeder out of duct tape and flexible foam sheeting. Wind the pipe wrap heater around and around the foam cylinder you just made but do not overlap the pipe wrap tape. Now wrap another flexible sheet of foam over it and tape again. Put plenty of tape on your heated sleeve which, being slightly conical as most water feeders are, should slip on and off (up and down) and can be easily slipped down over the next tank of water you carry out to the dutiful chickens. You probably also need to wrap and tape an outside covering of aluminum fly screen to keep the naughty hens from pecking it to pieces. It's their nature to taste every thing.
-Carl
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Jennifer, At
January 25, 2012 6:18 AM
Another great idea on building a water heater for the coop:
Hi Jennifer, I have enjoyed your blog with community chickens, would
like to give you an idea for a heated waterer. I have about 100
chickens in several coops and two geese, and have found an economical
way to create water heater bases for galvanized waterers.
Get a galvanized feeding bowl, heater pad for an oil pan, available on
Amazon, and a Thermo Cube, available at Tractor Supply, and Gasket
maker adhesive, at any auto store. Initial investment is around $40.
but they get exponentially cheaper as you go along
Hope you find this helpful,
Anne
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Jennifer, At
January 25, 2012 6:19 AM
An idea for helping to warm up the coop during the winter:
i live in georgia and do not have the problem but mine gran father told me one time that he put a keosene heater in his barn during the day to keep his barn warm it may be a thought to put one in the chicken coop for a few hours a day to keep them warm
it dose not run off power it is something to think about or a gas heater that runs off of lp gas if you can get it there
-Tracey
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Jennifer, At
January 25, 2012 6:20 AM
You are working way too hard. A red heat bulb should keep the girls laying and the eggs from freezing. When you can, invest in getting electricity ran to your barn. This small change could save you a lot of time and extra effort.
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mzsonja, At
January 25, 2012 8:20 AM
Jennifer,
Unless you have a huge heater for your water, you should have no problem with an adapter sending electricity to both the heater and the flouresent light. That light draws a small amount of electricity. especially if it is only on for 4 or so hours a day. I think that it should be able to "share' electricity during that time. Try having both on and feel the insulation on the wiring after a couple of hours. If it feels hot, don't continue with both in use. Most heaters have some sort of cutoff built in so that they obly heat when temp of the container is below freezing. They do not actually "heat" the water to the point that it feels warm to the touch, but merely keep it just above the freezing point
I use one of the old galvanized base heaters and use a three gallon plastic waterer on it. Even though most will say not to set plastic on a heater. The temp is nowwhere near hot enough to cause a problem. I hav done this for years.
One other thing that someone may have mentioned by now is the timing of the light. I have always set the timer to come on around 4 AM and shut off around 8 AM. This seems to me to be more natural to the chickens to have a natural shutdown at roosting time rather than sudden darkness, which could leave some not on the roost when the blackout occurs.
Frozen eggs........ Unless you are fortunate enough to be able to check frequently durimg the day, they are going to happen. I have found that cutting down on the number of nest boxes in winter will help a little. The boxes stay covered as the hens line up (and stack up sometimes) to lay. This keeps the eggs "undercover" much of the day.
Just my two cents worth here. I'm sure many have success doing completely opposite. But, it has worked for me for years.
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Old Orchard Farm, At
January 25, 2012 6:08 PM
there are wonderful low wattage products out there, that are not only energy efficient but very fire safe, even with your limited electric to your coop. I have a 600 bird certified organic operation (I have advanced but mobile MS, and I do it all myself alone) I live in Montana at 4500 feet a.s.l. so I had to seek out very creative low cost ways to provide water and light to my girls! I have only 2 heavy duty extension cords- * the use of good extension cords is key in saving money and providing correct watts that ultimately save money, than putting a drag (drain) on the items I use) the use of a good 'light bar', timers, heat tape, a large pickle barrel that provides gravity flow water and florescent lighting is all I use, the use of shavings in the nest boxes holds the hens heat too, in sub zero I collect eggs just 2 times a day and have yet to have a frozen egg in the boxes, I do have to get the hoses out about every 3-4 days to fill the pickle barrel, but that sure beats running out every hour, I know your girls love you for all the extra you do for them, but! start surfing and find those time saving safe items you need to enjoy the warmth of your home and family more! ( it was cool to see the peeled frozen eggs," who'da thunk it?"
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LadyElk, At
January 25, 2012 7:54 PM
PS. your hens look very well kept, pretty with a good sheen to the feathering! love the pic of them eating the oat meal btw!
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LadyElk, At
January 25, 2012 8:01 PM
Another day, another collection of fantastic ideas! Thanks so much for sharing. You've given me so many great ideas that I will have a difficult time choosing which one to try first!
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Jennifer, At
January 25, 2012 9:35 PM
I have the same problem, only one electrical socket. So I plug in a small crock pot and set it on "warm" to keep water from freezing. Got tired of the girls not laying during shortest days of year, so put up one of those small sticky-backed lights that runs on AAA batteries. It's the kind you press to turn on & off. Works great!
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dca6ba58-47da-11e1-a92f-000bcdcb471e, At
January 25, 2012 11:02 PM
Another great idea from a reader:
I read about your dilemma with keeping your chickens supplied with light vs. water. Maybe you have this resolved already, but if not, try this: position the light source close enough to the water supply so that the ambient heat also warms the water container. Use insulation material like foam boards and sheet metal to trap the heat where you want it to be, always being mindful of shock or fire hazard.
-Inga
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Jennifer, At
January 26, 2012 12:22 PM
I have built a simple water warmer for my girls. I used a popcorn tin, the shorter one (the kind that the flavored popcorn comes in). I drilled a hole in it for the wiring, installed a porcelin light fixture in the bottom with a ring of weather stripping for it to sit on & a bit of silicone to hold it in place, put a 60 or 75 watt bulb in it. Then I set my waterer on top of the tin cover. I can plug it in along with my added light with a power strip. It works GREAT!! I have had just 3 days that the water still froze in the bottom ring but that was easily removed. I use a large metal waterer. But I'm sure the plastic waterers would be fine on the warmer also. GOOD LUCK! -Nanc
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Nancy, At
January 27, 2012 9:11 AM
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