Raising Cornish X Meat Birds for Processing
Labels: backyard chickens, Chickens, cornish x, Meat Birds, poop, processing, suzanne roark
by Suzanne Roark
When we first began raising chickens it was strictly eggs we were interested in. Somehow after a few years of raising the egg-laying kind, we started to think about raising the meat kind.
I searched the internet for answers on how to raise them. I knew vaguely that the “meat” kind was an all-white feathered breed but not much else. I did find information on meat conversions, weeks to slaughter, and how incredibly weak and ill they could become with their fast growth rate.
I had questions like how the meat would taste and whether cooking the meat would be different from the store bought kind. However, I couldn’t find much information on that aspect of raising meat birds. I did find a lot of documents about giant commercial chicken raising operations and even quite a bit about free ranging the birds. I could do neither of those options and couldn’t seem to get any concrete answers about the flavor and cooking of home raised meat chickens.
It didn’t take very long to discover some major differences between egg layers and meat chickens—mainly that these commercially bred birds are eating; water drinking; pooping machines. They have no normal chicken behavior, no scratching and clucking around. No normal chicken personality. I was disgusted, and still am disgusted after raising several batches of the little beasts, that we as humans have somehow managed to breed this monster of a bird. We’ve mangled and twisted the genetic makeup so that these creatures no longer have any discernable “chicken” traits, so sad.
You see it quickly becomes apparent that the coop must be kept dry to keep the overwhelming smell of ammonia at bay. I had read about, but never really experienced the ammonia smell with my laying coop. Meat birds have an incredible ammonia problem which I think comes from the fact that they respire so quickly from all that fast growth and the tons and tons of wet poo. I find myself churning the poo with a rake and hoe since the chickens can’t do it themselves.
Other than dealing with the ammonia-pooh issue, raising meat birds is fairly easy. You just feed them. Constantly. The amount of water they consume is about double the amount of feed so don’t be surprised to find yourself filling up the waterers more than once per day. It is true that the easily found breed of Cornish X is ready for the butcher at 8-10 weeks. I suppose we could push them a little more, but trust me, by the 8th week you want to be rid of them. At 8 weeks, their bodies are so fat and low to the ground they barely move. At feeding time they crowd around and push and shove, their big awkward feet tripping you while your pouring in the grain…once the feed hits the trough, they do indeed sound like pigs slopping it up. Processing them is almost a relief.
I was concerned that the meat would be “different” than store bought and that we wouldn’t really like it—you know, too strong of a taste or perhaps the meat would be tough. No worries though. The meat has incredible texture. Just like a store bought egg is watery, so is store bought chicken meat. Home grown is denser and consequently it seems to take much less of a portion size to fill us up. The flavor is more “chicken-y” than any store bought meat. In fact, after a year or so of eating only home grown chicken, a taste of the store bought kind revealed an odd chemical-like after taste.
Cooking of chicken you raise yourself does not really change that much either. I used to rely on pop up timers that come already neatly inserted into the meat. I now use a good meat thermometer. But smell, look and feel are a much better indicator of correct doneness than the government required 185° pop up timer. Is it that the manufactured chicken is pumped so full of water and “natural juices” that it seems to take so long to cook, or the incredibly high temp of the required 185°, or perhaps the big guys have manufactured them that way so that no matter how much you overcook their product, it always tastes the same?
In any case, after raising a few batches of birds I now notice that the compact shrink-wrapped chicken at the store is so much smaller per pound than my own birds. For instance, I recently noticed one of those membership clubs offering two whole chickens packaged together, I could fit the pack in my two hands. The weight on the package read 9lbs—meaning each chicken weighed 4.5lbs, how could that be? When just one 4lb chicken of my own is so big it takes two hands to carry it alone. The bones seem more rigid on my home grown kind. The legs do stick up and you can actually feel the body has bones. But the packaged version was very mushy, with nary a sign that there were even any bones at all. The legs were soft and bent over neatly along the breast meat. Makes me wonder just how they got those two tiny carcasses to weigh 4.5lbs each.
After investing all that time and effort feeding and caring for them, and then the hard work of processing them, I feel an awareness that the effort must not go to waste. I never ever made my own chicken stock before I started raising my own birds. Now, I can’t throw away the carcass (I freeze the carcasses for when I have the time to make the stock). It’s just too wasteful. That chicken gave its life for me I must use every bit out of respect for its sacrifice.
We’ll continue to raise meat birds, I’ll continue to search for better ways to deal with the poo and I’ll be searching for a less intensive meat breed to raise. If you’ve got a great way to deal with the upkeep of fast growing Cornish X, or have a better breed that yields a decent amount of meat, I’d love to know the details!





15 Comments:
If you have the room you can put them in a chicken tractor. We used five 6x10' chain link dog kennel panels, arranged in a circle with the tractor inside. We moved the whole thing every other day. Once the birds got to about 5 weeks old we opened the kennel gate and let them free range. They did learn to eat bugs and grass and would scratch around a bit but not like our layers. Actually, they probably learned it from watching the layers. Like you, we found them disgusting, but very tasty. We did two batches of 36 last year and will do even more this year because we have lots of friends who want to buy some :)
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Andrea G, At
December 13, 2011 8:25 AM
Sand may be a better floor covering. While the labor will be similar it's inexpensive and the manure will compost quickly if you mix in some lime after removal.
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Dean, At
December 13, 2011 8:59 AM
Ive read about the Cornish X, do you feed them a special feed. I've read that you have to so they can put the weight on quickly, or do you feed them regular scratch and grains?
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jpet86, At
December 13, 2011 9:33 AM
I did not have good luck with sand. The poo just mushed into the sand and made glop. It didn't drain as I thought it would, just made cement! I have much better luck raking up pine needles. I line the coop with them, about 6 or 8 inches deep, and they stay airy and fluffy, even after several nights of the big birds bedding down. It helps to turn the pine needles with a pitchfork once a day. I get WAY more mileage out of pine needles than wood shavings, which seem to hold moisture and odors and are EXPENSIVE. For the outdoor run, I just rake the grass/dirt daily with a small garden rake (smaller tines closer together) and use a giant shop-sized dustpan to haul the poo to the compost pile. While Cornish X don't forage in the grass like egg-layers, they do seem to appreciate lying in the soft cool grass, and I feel better knowing they have a clean place to lie all day. I elevate their feeder on bricks so they can't lie down to eat.
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nancy in northern wisconsin, At
December 13, 2011 10:50 AM
We fed our Cornish X "flock raiser" feed that is high in protein (about 20%). Because their lifespan is so much shorter, we only fed them a starter food for the first few weeks before switching to the layer. Although we did allow them to free-range some, they were generally quite lazy and preferred to rely on food from the feeders.
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D M Brennan, At
December 13, 2011 11:12 AM
We have places that processes wood, ie. For pallets, logs to boards, etc. And they give the sawdust, shaving, bark by product away. So you just load it into your truck and pile it next to your chicken coop to use as you need. We had Cornish cross but our chickens free ranged and they acted just like the others so I don't understand why yours where retarded. Maybe you should mix some egg layered in with them. If you free range chickens, you need to be prepared for a tougher bird that needs to be cooked low and slow. I love watching chickens. Its way more intertaining than the Kardasians.
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LadyJustice, At
December 13, 2011 11:33 AM
We do our own meat chickens, and have experienced what you describe when we keep them confined. We have had the best luck in growth and taste when we keep them confined for the first two weeks and then leave them loose in the orchard 24/7. Our LGD keeps them safe, and by only feeding them as much as they can eat in 10 minutes twice a day, we ensure that they do indeed go foraging.
Our birds will scratch, peck, and graze. It does help to have a few pullets or laying chicks mixed in - they will teach the others how to act.
Our chick supplier of choice is Moyers Chicks in Quakertown PA. They have the BEST cornish crosses - grow fast and heavy even with minimal feed.
I have had good luck when I bed with shavings AND keep a half dozen hen chicks in with them - I sprinkle whole grain in the bedding before evening feeding, and they all get to work scratching.
The trick is not to overfeed them - if you do, it will suppress the natural foraging instinct.
- Rosalyn
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Rosalyn, At
December 13, 2011 1:12 PM
I've never tried raising meat birds yet, and have only helped process a few birds so far: a couple of our own roosters, and I helped with someone else's batch of Cornish Cross.
I have read of people who bought Cornish Cross day-old chicks when they had a broody hen available to raise them, and that it was a completely different experience. The mom teaches them to scratch and forage, and they do learn more typical chicken behaviors from her. That sounds like a better alternative, and I may try it someday.
Thanks for sharing your experience.
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jeanmarietodd, At
December 13, 2011 10:07 PM
I'd like to raise some meat birds this coming year for the first time. We are considering Jersey Giants. Has anyone tried them for meat birds? The little research I've done has resulted in the following: they butcher at 20 weeks, they weigh in at 10-16 lbs live weight, they act like "regular" chickens, they are also layers, and don't get them from the place you get the layers because they won't be big meat birds. Get them from a place that specializes in Jersey Giants and ask if they "weigh in". Does this sound too good to be true to anyone else? Kornmamma
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Kornmamma, At
December 14, 2011 8:41 AM
After one year with Cornish Cross we decided that was enough. We experienced everything the author did and were totally grossed out by the birds. I have heard that they can live a somewhat normal life if they are allowed to free range, but I don't believe it. I think just that these birds exist is gross.
We raised Dark Cornish this year and they are totally different birds. They forage like champions and don't die of overeating. They are smaller and take longer to grow, but are totally worth it. The portion size of a cornish x might be big, but it seems totally unnatural. If you adjust your expectations, the Dark Cornish can be rewarding. Yes, processing is horrible, but so is raising gross birds with a miserable existence.
We raise our own meat to lessen our impact on the planet - purchasing large amounts of feed which is grown with high input industrial practices and transported all across the country, doesn't fit with our goals. So the tradeoff of the smaller birds and longer growing time is worth it for us.
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JoAnna, At
December 14, 2011 9:11 AM
Same exact experience here - cornish x's taste great but they are such slugs. We had some laying chicks in with them, the layers would go outside, while the big fat white birds layed around by the feeder. Last year I tried two other breeds: Delaware & Buckeye. My experience was that while they were extremely chicken-y, they are not as good in taste. Flavor of the Buckeye was good, downside was dark pin feathers and not very big. Delawares were just tougher, like a game bird almost - but they are a very active breed so that's not really surprising. This year we are going to go back to cornish x's but they will be in a chicken tractor and moved daily. Forcing them to be outside seems like the way to go, and moving often should keep the fertilizer spread out. There was supposed to be a guy working to breed a Corndel - cornish delaware cross, but apparently he has gone to China and no one picked up his work. If I could do this full time, I would do this full time, it sure sounds like there is a niche for a good farm meat bird!!!
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K. Jean, At
December 14, 2011 9:17 AM
Thank you for all the ideas. Maybe my Cornish X act like that because of no other real chickens are kept with them. I'll have to give that idea some thought...I also like the idea of using dual purpose breeds, such as Jersey Giants and the Dark Cornish described. But my experiences with hatchery stock of dual purpose breeds has been really disappointing. I tried the Giants but they never attained good size and same with Orpingtons, both from a hatchery. Recently I obtained some excellent quality breeder stock Orpingtons and the size difference is like night and day; they are not that old before they get large. At just 6 months old my Orpington hens were two to three times the size of my 2 year old hatchery hens. I have only 1 enormous roo from the breeder stock and he's less than a year. I am trying to see how I could possibly raise broilers from breeder stock. But then, the price is so much more for a good bird, and it seems a bit of a waste of money for a good quality bird to end up on the table. On the other hand, if I only raise out excess cockerels...I wish we could get the hatcheries to either supply better quality stock of the different breeds or start over with the Cornish X to have them less genetically engineered to be Frankenchickens.
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suz, At
December 14, 2011 9:29 AM
You have to limit their feed to keep them from laying around all the time. They will still never really act like your layer birds, but they will be more active and get out of the house to look for bugs, etc. if they only get to eat a certain amount twice a day. I never feed mine the meat bird feed, they grow too fast for their own good as it is. Trust me, these birds were made to grow, and that is what they will do no matter how they are fed/housed.
I am thinking about trying the Cornish Roasters instead of the Jumbo Cornish X this spring. They are supposed to have a slightly slower growth rate and act more natural. I get my chicks from McMurray's, you could probably find them at other hatcheries too though.
Oh, and Suzane-You are very right about not wanting to know what that "slime" is! I have been reading up on the way these birds are raised and slaughtered, and I WILL NEVER eat store bought chicken again!! They live in inhumane conditions, and are processed in unsanitary ways. Yucky, to say the least.
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Intothewoods, At
December 15, 2011 12:04 PM
"Now, I can’t throw away the carcass (I freeze the carcasses for when I have the time to make the stock). It’s just too wasteful. That chicken gave its life for me I must use every bit out of respect for its sacrifice."
Very well said.
Pam
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Pam and Bill, At
February 19, 2012 9:28 AM
Do you process them yourself? I am still in the reading stage of this....don't really have the land for a chicken tractor unless I can talk the neighbours into letting me um...fertilize their land for them but from what I've read here it sounds like that is the option I'd prefer.
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s.m., At
February 28, 2012 5:24 PM
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